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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby TheodoricFriede » January 28th, 2017, 10:07 pm

Can i get you a katana to go with that edge-lord, lord of the edge?

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Riptide » January 28th, 2017, 10:11 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:Can i get you a katana to go with that edge-lord, lord of the edge?


They ARE giving us melee weapons including hammers and swords in this game.

So yes. Though I prefer the omni-blade. White hot diamond that shatters into pieces inside of the enemy's body. Mm. That's the kind of pain I can get behind inflicting.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » January 28th, 2017, 10:15 pm

FYI that may have come off more confrontational than i intended.

Mostly i just wanted to do some teasing.

Ive been drinking.

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Postby Riptide » January 28th, 2017, 10:18 pm

I know you were teasing. I didn't take it any other way.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby SciFlyBoy » January 29th, 2017, 2:10 am

I recruited Grunt and opened his tank. Decided to not take any Paragon or renegade choices and ended up shooting him several times. Now when I talk to him there's blood dripping out his mouth. Has anyone here ever done that before?

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Someone With Mass » January 29th, 2017, 7:03 am

SciFlyBoy wrote:I recruited Grunt and opened his tank. Decided to not take any Paragon or renegade choices and ended up shooting him several times. Now when I talk to him there's blood dripping out his mouth. Has anyone here ever done that before?


Yup. Then again, it was just the Shuriken if I remember things correctly. That thing's harmless.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby TheodoricFriede » January 29th, 2017, 7:17 am

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Yup. Then again, it was just the Shuriken if I remember things correctly. That thing's harmless.

That guns the murder knife of the mass effect universe.

Its precisely as deadly as it needs to be in any given plot device.

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Postby Vol » January 29th, 2017, 9:47 am

TheodoricFriede wrote:Are they?

What, are gay people and black people having a war?

Well don't quote me on it, since I'm not a brotha, but the perception I get is that being gay doesn't go over well with the pop culture version of urban black culture that's getting marketed all over the place. Being on the down-low and all that.

So my point being, Liam should love the dick and I'd give props to Bioware.

Riptide wrote:I just really want the option to play an uber edgy Ryder who knows no love but the sound a Kett's carapace makes when penetrated by magnesium coated incendiary rounds.

"Wait for it, and you'll hear the pop."

I'm trying to think of the last game I've played that you could really choose the voice of your character. Tyranny did it well. Pillars, to a lesser extent. I suppose DA:I would count, at least when it came to some dialogue. Other places, the railroading into going along with the plot/lecture pissed me off, but hey. Assets are expensive.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Dragaros » January 29th, 2017, 10:05 am

Riptide wrote:And I'll be all like "my only love is power."


Ryder: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Dragaros » January 29th, 2017, 10:06 am

https://www.masseffect.com/news/meet-yo ... ew-trailer

[[ "Two of your starting squad mates will be Liam and Cora, who both signed up to be part of the Pathfinder team on the Ark Hyperion. Liam has already made a name for himself in the Milky Way as a security specialist, with expertise in crisis response, while Cora has had the unique experience of training with the asari matriarchs. Along with Alec, Scott, and Sara Ryder, they form the core of the Pathfinder team, and will be vital companions as you touch down on the Nexus for the first time.

Unlike Liam and Cora, your other squad mates, like Vetra, Peebee, and Drack, have traveled to Andromeda long before your arrival. Vetra, who is already onboard the Nexus, has found that family ties are more important than venturing deeper into the galaxy. Neither Peebee nor Drack were part of the initial Pathfinder team, and while you’ll find Peebee to be a free spirit with a penchant for alien civilizations, you’ll come to know Drack as an aged and grizzled veteran, even by krogan standards.

Of course, you’ll encounter a number of other companions as you traverse Andromeda in search of humanity’s new home, and will put your trust in others like Kallo Jath, your salarian pilot. Among other accomplishments, Kallo was one of the engineers who built the Tempest in its Milky Way construction, and knows the ship inside and out." ]]

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Zero Suit Rosalina » January 29th, 2017, 10:43 am

SciFlyBoy wrote:So far none seem appealing to me. Which is actually great right now, since I'll start the game with no preferred path and just base it off of character development.

Same here.
Don't know how to feel about the characters. So hopefully I will like them when I finally get to play with them.

Like I have a feeling that I'll love Cora and I'm going to hate Pebe but that's about it.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby TheodoricFriede » January 29th, 2017, 3:01 pm

Dragaros wrote:you’ll come to know Drack as an aged and grizzled veteran, even by krogan standards.

Fucking nailed it.

Again!

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Someone With Mass » January 29th, 2017, 3:06 pm

So he's basically Wrex 1.5. Fat surprise.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby TheodoricFriede » January 29th, 2017, 3:08 pm

Dragaros wrote:Vetra, who is already onboard the Nexus, has found that family ties are more important than venturing deeper into the galaxy.

She sounds delightful.

Shame she wont be an option for my preferred playthrough.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Someone With Mass » January 29th, 2017, 9:22 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I3_BB0YY9E

P2P?

Kids, get your sliders out! We're back in the death animation business again!

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Deano » January 29th, 2017, 9:43 pm

A lot of bait in that video, I don't really care about it being P2P. It being uncapped is as to be expected, hopefully the cutscenes aren't capped like DA:I.


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Postby Dragaros » January 30th, 2017, 10:16 am

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Drack attacking a female turian; is that Vetra?

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Deano » January 30th, 2017, 10:37 am

Where did you get those from Drag?

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Postby TheodoricFriede » January 30th, 2017, 10:38 am

Those were all scenes from the recent trailer. The cast and crew seems to be IMDB in case you didnt know that.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Deano » January 30th, 2017, 10:40 am

TheodoricFriede wrote:Those were all scenes from the recent trailer. The cast and crew seems to be IMDB in case you didnt know that.


I thought so, I'm just surprised I didn't notice the scene with Liam.

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Postby Someone With Mass » January 30th, 2017, 10:54 am

Well, that happens with trailers these days. The hacks that make them think it's cool to rapid cut everything and essentially forcing anyone who wants any amount of details to slow everything down and watch it shot by shot.

I think it's obnoxious more than anything.

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Postby Riptide » January 30th, 2017, 5:14 pm

So Liam was born in London.

God dammit no.

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Postby Riptide » January 30th, 2017, 5:34 pm

And I really am getting really pissed at how I could of had a fucking asari commando on my team, and now that I do it's a fucking human.

But instead, it looks like the asari on the squad is Liara 2.0.

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Postby Alienmorph » January 30th, 2017, 5:38 pm

PeeBee looks like Liara if she had a quirky quarian street girl's personality.

Which makes NOT liking her even more, because it's like she's meant to replace two charactes in one swoop, rather than being her own.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » January 30th, 2017, 5:40 pm

Riptide wrote:And I really am getting really pissed at how I could of had a fucking asari commando on my team, and now that I do it's a fucking human.

But instead, it looks like the asari on the squad is Liara 2.0.

Alienmorph wrote:PeeBee looks like Liara if she had a quirky quarian street girl's personality.

Which makes NOT liking her even more, because it's like she's meant to replace two characters in one swoop, rather than being her own.


Shes the offspring of Sera and Liara. I cant think of someone id want on my team less.

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Postby Riptide » January 30th, 2017, 5:46 pm

It just pisses me off. Unlike most people, I LIKE the idea behind the asari, I just think we're very rarely presented with compelling examples of them, or worse, botched examples of stuff that could of been great but isn't. I've been asking for an asari commando on the squad since ME1.

And it's a fucking. Human. WHICH IS PROBABLY CONNECTED TO CERBERUS GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I HATE EVERYTHING.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » January 30th, 2017, 5:48 pm

Rip, she will have no Cerberus connection. Zero.

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Postby Alienmorph » January 30th, 2017, 5:50 pm

The asari are... okay. It's very blatant that they exist just to be walking fanservice, but I've seen characters even more blatant in that regard that manage to be likeable, or at least interesting. Giving us a Liara 2.0. with a lame DA character's personality, and giving the cool asari backstory to an HUMAN, is not the way to go, tho...

And I'll believe someone who's an ender-ish mentor figure, who's last name is Harper, in a story co-written by Mac Walters DOESN'T have any tie with Cerberus when I see it.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Vol » January 30th, 2017, 6:02 pm

I personally enjoyed the idea of the asari, a straight up fan-service race that functions as the elves of the setting. Pretty blue all-women, can mate with everyone, sensual, long lived, "magic" powers, and you can bang a good few. Completely fine and fitting, even got some great characters from that formula. The humbling of ME3 was cathartic though, I'll admit.

But I'm getting a vibe that there's going to be some ~subversion~ in ME4. Even if PeeBee isn't actually similar to Sera in character, she might fulfill the same role as the total counterpoint to the norm with her species.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » January 30th, 2017, 6:04 pm

Vol wrote:
But I'm getting a vibe that there's going to be some ~subversion~ in ME4. Even if PeeBee isn't actually similar to Sera in character, she might fulfill the same role as the total counterpoint to the norm with her species.

You dont need to speculate on that.

Mac Walters has said those exact words.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Riptide » January 30th, 2017, 6:16 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:Rip, she will have no Cerberus connection. Zero.


It's possible.

But Mac Walters is the director, and he's the guy that retroactively went back and made Cerberus have a hand in like, nearly everyone's backstory.

Hell, I want to like Cora. I think she looks cool, and any other time, I'd actually really like her general backstory. But it doesn't make sense for the time and setting. The idea of more inter-species cooperation and inter-unit service would work better in a post ME3 setting. And again, instead of getting a dedicated commando, we got Liara and Sera's love child.

Asari commandos are metal as hell. And we never get to hang out with one. I just want a blue space babe in leather to blow things up with, who isn't an unstable wreck like Liara or a hypocritical rock like Samara.

And I certainly don't need another fucking Sera in my life. One was enough.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Someone With Mass » January 30th, 2017, 7:42 pm

Riptide wrote:So Liam was born in London.

God dammit no.


And his other place is on the Citadel. Wow. He's in a for a rude surprise.

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Postby Riptide » January 30th, 2017, 8:23 pm

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Riptide wrote:So Liam was born in London.

God dammit no.


And his other place is on the Citadel. Wow. He's in a for a rude surprise.


Black people can be from places in the world other than fucking London is all I'm saying. Jesus Christ. Wanted to give him the accent? Could of had him come from South Africa. Fuck.

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Postby Vol » January 30th, 2017, 8:35 pm

RIP michaelrsa

I don't know if he's dead, but he was an Afrikaaner, so...

Is black people being from London a trope? I don't pay much attention.

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Postby Grand Admiral Cheesecake » January 30th, 2017, 8:40 pm

Vol wrote:RIP michaelrsa

I don't know if he's dead, but he was an Afrikaaner, so...

Is black people being from London a trope? I don't pay much attention.


Anderson was born in London.

This is mentioned more than once in ME3 and meme'd even more so.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » January 30th, 2017, 11:17 pm

Vol wrote:Is black people being from London a trope? I don't pay much attention.

I dont know. I know that they show up a lot in UK TV.

Dr Who, for example, seems to have a disproportionate number of couples with white women and black men. Its not a problem, but its almost fetishistic in how often its done.

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Postby Azint » January 30th, 2017, 11:20 pm

Black Brits have the best accents. Idris Elba and Estelle are shining examples.

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Postby Spartanburger » January 31st, 2017, 1:35 am

PeeBee's face reminds me of Summer Glau (River, from Firefly/Serenity) at times. I wonder if that's her face model.

As for Cora, I think it'd be cool if she had a Cerberus connection but (put away the pitchforks) it was extremely limited.

For example: Cerberus had a minor hand in funding (read: not in administration or production. A minor charitable donation) the Andromeda initiative (limited due to the make-shepard-not-dead-and-also-give-him-a-really-baller-ship expenses). Along with the minor donation was the recommendation of putting Cora on the team. The minor funding, plus Cora's arguably good background got her the position. The andromeda initiative is not infested with cerberus operatives (though select individuals might subscribe to their ideology, like those terra firma types), cora is sent alone for the purpose of keeping the cerberus idea alive. They know about the Reapers, so it makes sense that they'd send one of their best in what is literally an ark to another galaxy. Perhaps her loyalty missions could involve some sort of conflict with it. It could remain there in part, but not relevant to the main plot.

That said, if BioWare is wanting to avoid talking about Reapers, the cerberus connection fades a bit. Though the cerberus connection could still be there with her just being kept in the dark about the reaps, she doesn't seem like the kind of operative that would be at such a low level to have that kept from her.

I dunno. It's late, I can't sleep, and I'm spitballing ideas.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Grand Admiral Cheesecake » January 31st, 2017, 2:36 am

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Vol wrote:Is black people being from London a trope? I don't pay much attention.

I dont know. I know that they show up a lot in UK TV.

Dr Who, for example, seems to have a disproportionate number of couples with white women and black men. Its not a problem, but its almost fetishistic in how often its done.


Eeeeh. That's the BBC's new... diversity requirements at work.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Someone With Mass » January 31st, 2017, 4:06 am

Azint wrote:Black Brits have the best accents. Idris Elba and Estelle are shining examples.


Snatch.

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Postby TTTX » January 31st, 2017, 5:22 am

Spartanburger wrote:PeeBee's face reminds me of Summer Glau (River, from Firefly/Serenity) at times. I wonder if that's her face model.

As for Cora, I think it'd be cool if she had a Cerberus connection but (put away the pitchforks) it was extremely limited.

For example: Cerberus had a minor hand in funding (read: not in administration or production. A minor charitable donation) the Andromeda initiative (limited due to the make-shepard-not-dead-and-also-give-him-a-really-baller-ship expenses). Along with the minor donation was the recommendation of putting Cora on the team. The minor funding, plus Cora's arguably good background got her the position. The andromeda initiative is not infested with cerberus operatives (though select individuals might subscribe to their ideology, like those terra firma types), cora is sent alone for the purpose of keeping the cerberus idea alive. They know about the Reapers, so it makes sense that they'd send one of their best in what is literally an ark to another galaxy. Perhaps her loyalty missions could involve some sort of conflict with it. It could remain there in part, but not relevant to the main plot.

That said, if BioWare is wanting to avoid talking about Reapers, the cerberus connection fades a bit. Though the cerberus connection could still be there with her just being kept in the dark about the reaps, she doesn't seem like the kind of operative that would be at such a low level to have that kept from her.

I dunno. It's late, I can't sleep, and I'm spitballing ideas.

meh, Cerberus was terrible executed idea.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Deano » January 31st, 2017, 9:30 am

Vol wrote:Is black people being from London a trope? I don't pay much attention.


Apart from London, nowhere else do black people have a different accent really. I personally like the accent, you can be a bro but threatening at the same time with it.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Mazder » January 31st, 2017, 10:00 am

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Vol wrote:Is black people being from London a trope? I don't pay much attention.


Apart from London, nowhere else do black people have a different accent really. I personally like the accent, you can be a bro but threatening at the same time with it.

Hmmm, I thought it was just a London Dialect, or just an offshoot of the London area.

Accents tend to just be based on area, with London being the melting pot it is I just assumed it was just an accent from London. I've met plenty of black people with my local accent. But apparently I don't have much of a local accent despite living here my whole life...
So, yeah, accents are weird.


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