Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo4B90HToLs

[Dragaros]

https://youtu.be/uVKJsVEWdlM

[SciFlyBoy]

So I had a thought, you know how most horror movies have the same formula? Group of people are someplace, something bad happens to one of them, the audience yells at the screen for an hour as the rest of the group stupidly dies and then the thing that caused the horror dies...or does it? And then the credits roll.

What if that horror happened aboard a military vessel, like a navy ship? Say a crewman goes missing and is found floating off the ship and the body is brought on board and weird things start happening to crew members, only the chain of command and military doctrine has to kick in. How would a typical horror story stand up to the rigorous procedures and protocols aboard a military run vessel? How much do horror stories rely somewhat of the incompetence of others to propel the horror forward and would that horror exist in the strict rules of military command?

Does anyone have any thoughts?

[TheodoricFriede]

Does anyone have any thoughts?

I would argue that most of what we call horror, in terms of modern movies, isn't horror. Especially if it relies on the incompetence of the characters leading to jumpscares, rather than being actually disturbing.

Modern horror isn't scary, it's startling.

[Someone With Mass]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPQHG-LevZM

[TTTX]

So I had a thought, you know how most horror movies have the same formula? Group of people are someplace, something bad happens to one of them, the audience yells at the screen for an hour as the rest of the group stupidly dies and then the thing that caused the horror dies...or does it? And then the credits roll.

What if that horror happened aboard a military vessel, like a navy ship? Say a crewman goes missing and is found floating off the ship and the body is brought on board and weird things start happening to crew members, only the chain of command and military doctrine has to kick in. How would a typical horror story stand up to the rigorous procedures and protocols aboard a military run vessel? How much do horror stories rely somewhat of the incompetence of others to propel the horror forward and would that horror exist in the strict rules of military command?

Does anyone have any thoughts?

if it's a psychological story, there isn't a lot of jump scares and the scripts written really well it could work.

However most Horror stories isn't written very well at least when it comes to the movies.

[Mobius_118]

So I had a thought, you know how most horror movies have the same formula? Group of people are someplace, something bad happens to one of them, the audience yells at the screen for an hour as the rest of the group stupidly dies and then the thing that caused the horror dies...or does it? And then the credits roll.

What if that horror happened aboard a military vessel, like a navy ship? Say a crewman goes missing and is found floating off the ship and the body is brought on board and weird things start happening to crew members, only the chain of command and military doctrine has to kick in. How would a typical horror story stand up to the rigorous procedures and protocols aboard a military run vessel? How much do horror stories rely somewhat of the incompetence of others to propel the horror forward and would that horror exist in the strict rules of military command?

Does anyone have any thoughts?

Most horror movies take place seemingly in a world where horror movies don't exist.

I can tell you, if something fucked up happened on a base or a Naval ship, military protocol would kick in, security forces would put the ship on lock down, and hunt down the evil with relentless security sweeps made by teams of heavily armed and armored teams in constant contact. Same thing on a military base. The rest of the crew/unit would be on lock down. It's the same as if a shooting were to occur and the shooter escaped out of the area but not off base. It's a bad day for that individual.

I would argue that most of what we call horror, in terms of modern movies, isn't horror. Especially if it relies on the incompetence of the characters leading to jumpscares, rather than being actually disturbing.

Modern horror isn't scary, it's startling.

Theo is correct. It's now based on jumpscares. Real horror is dependent on more psychological aspects rather than dumb asshole does something dumb and gets speared by a road sign.

I've been watching The Evil Dead series and the Starz series Ash vs The Evil Dead. Now, that kind of horror in the movies was both gory and psychological. It also involved panicky people getting killed. Then it went off the walls with Ash attaching a chainsaw to his stump. That's the direction they wanted to go, though. It's intentional slapstick along with existential horror not knowing who's possessed until they go all deadite and start fucking with people.

[Dragaros]

So I had a thought, you know how most horror movies have the same formula? Group of people are someplace, something bad happens to one of them, the audience yells at the screen for an hour as the rest of the group stupidly dies and then the thing that caused the horror dies...or does it? And then the credits roll.

What if that horror happened aboard a military vessel, like a navy ship? Say a crewman goes missing and is found floating off the ship and the body is brought on board and weird things start happening to crew members, only the chain of command and military doctrine has to kick in. How would a typical horror story stand up to the rigorous procedures and protocols aboard a military run vessel? How much do horror stories rely somewhat of the incompetence of others to propel the horror forward and would that horror exist in the strict rules of military command?

Does anyone have any thoughts?

Those are bad horror movies, and sadly most horror films are bad, because of atrocious and indolent writing, sucky or over the top acting, gratuitous or lazy shock value, and over-reliance on cliches and cheap tricks to startle the audience for quick but forgetful reactions rather than putting in the time and effort to craft a real suspenseful and fear-building atmosphere that draws you in and produces long lasting chills coupled with a good story and engaging characters that aren't dumb as a doornail. Even more so with modern horror movies.

There's a show on AMC right now called The Terror which takes the real account the lost expedition of the HMS Erebus and HMS Terror to the Arctic in 1845 to locate the Northwest Passage, but adds a supernatural monster on top of the tribulations of freezing weather, dwindling supplies, sickness, mutiny, madness, cannibalism, etc. Its two episodes in, and a slow burn, but I'm enjoying it so far, and deals with a lot of things you describe, though obviously its not a modern day setting.

[Vol]

I would argue that most of what we call horror, in terms of modern movies, isn't horror. Especially if it relies on the incompetence of the characters leading to jumpscares, rather than being actually disturbing.

Modern horror isn't scary, it's startling.

We're also experienced adults. I would suspect that to children, the physical appearance of monster/ghosts makes them scared, and the anticipation to the jump scare is actual dread. Whereas we've all seen the gamut of small, pale ghost girls, monsters, and aliens. I think the last horror movie that lingered with me for more than a few minutes was...Mama, back in that golden period I was in California.

So I had a thought, you know how most horror movies have the same formula? Group of people are someplace, something bad happens to one of them, the audience yells at the screen for an hour as the rest of the group stupidly dies and then the thing that caused the horror dies...or does it? And then the credits roll.

What if that horror happened aboard a military vessel, like a navy ship? Say a crewman goes missing and is found floating off the ship and the body is brought on board and weird things start happening to crew members, only the chain of command and military doctrine has to kick in. How would a typical horror story stand up to the rigorous procedures and protocols aboard a military run vessel? How much do horror stories rely somewhat of the incompetence of others to propel the horror forward and would that horror exist in the strict rules of military command?

Does anyone have any thoughts?

Well, semi-related, but there's a PS2/Xbox game about a very similar presence called Cold Fear. Pretty standard survival horror for the time, but the concept is roughly similar to what you're talking about, minus the realism of how the military would deal with that kind of threat.

[Someone With Mass]

Jump scares are one reason why I don't play horror games these days. Any idiot can make one of those.

[SciFlyBoy]

I can tell you, if something fucked up happened on a base or a Naval ship, military protocol would kick in, security forces would put the ship on lock down, and hunt down the evil with relentless security sweeps made by teams of heavily armed and armored teams in constant contact. Same thing on a military base. The rest of the crew/unit would be on lock down. It's the same as if a shooting were to occur and the shooter escaped out of the area but not off base. It's a bad day for that individual.

This. A zombie attack would be dealt with just like any other attack, except for the army coming in at the end of the film they're there at the beginning.

The thing that bugged me the most about Predator, was how in the beginning it showed the soldiers as cold, fluid, methodical in their execution, professional killers. Take down a normal enemy with little effort. But once the predator showed up they were screaming, sloppy and shooting their guns wildly into the air. Where was their training? Would a profession modern solder be able to take down a predator with any equipment he/she could carry?

[TheodoricFriede]

Would a profession modern solder be able to take down a predator with any equipment he/she could carry?

The Predator had a shoulder mounted Rail Gun and camouflage.

No.

[Mobius_118]

Would a profession modern solder be able to take down a predator with any equipment he/she could carry?

The Predator had a shoulder mounted Rail Gun and camouflage.

No.

It was still one entity, and the military does not operate lone squad style at all.

One Predator would get wiped off the face of the earth by a well-trained military unit. Predator basically operated like snipers do in every war. Attacking from a concealed position with precision weaponry yields fear, that's about it. After a regroup, the military tends to crush the sniper, sometimes literally by shelling the area. A Predator would kill off maybe two soldiers before it got lazed and blazed.

[TheodoricFriede]

Whatever you say, Klinger.

[Mobius_118]

Who here has actual experience in Infantry training?

[TheodoricFriede]

I dont know. Its never come up.

[Mobius_118]

I dont know. Its never come up.

Are you being a little shit because I'm disagreeing with you or just because it's me?

Either way it's fucking childish of you.

[Dragaros]

Would a profession modern solder be able to take down a predator with any equipment he/she could carry?

You've got to be a lot more specific because there's a ton of variables at play here.

Is this solider being taken by surprise, or were they briefed by their superiors and is out hunting a Predator deliberately?
Do they have standard equipment or did they prepare for a confrontation with a Predator in mind beforehand?
Are they aware of the Predator's camouflage abilities and vision modes, and the weakness that can be exploited?
Is the Predator hunting the soldier for trophies, or just trying to kill them for some other reason?
Does the Predator consider this soldier to be a worthy challenge and wants to eventually challenge him/her to an honor duel?
Is this a single soldier, or a squad of soldiers working together?
What type of environment is this taking place in? Because Predators will use different tactics accordingly; we see Predators using trees and buildings to great effect in the films.


Keep in mind:

Even without their hyper-advanced tech, a Predator still has super strength and durability compared to a human.

A Predator can live to be centuries old; some EU material implies they can even reach a 1000 years. A seasoned veteran Predator has a ton of training and experience under its belt.

Most Predators conduct their hunts under an honor code, but this code isn't universally agreed upon; different clans have their own rules and systems of doing things. A predator from one clan might be ok with killing targets from vast distances away, and another might see that as cowardly. This would change the tactics and behavior of the Predator in a scenario like this.

EU material implies Predators actually hold back on using their most advance tech when on hunts. They have much more advanced gear and weapons at their disposal they we don't see because of their honor code.

Every Predator we've seen in the films is just a hunter out on the equivalent of a weekend safari. We've never seen a Predator soldier, clad in its kind's most advanced armor and weapons, ready for war, not a hunt, conducting affairs without the restraints of an honor code.

We've seen that it is possible for a human to win against a Predator in peak condition in a fair, one-on-one duel with blades, but the human didn't live to enjoy his victory as he was mortally wounded as well. An LA cop in the second film kills a Predator in a blade duel and lives, but that Predator was exhausted after a long and productive night of hunting on top of having gone days without eating, and severely weakened by a chopped off arm and numerous shotgun blasts to the torso, as well as making the mistake of not going for a quick kill when the opportunity laid before it.

Predators can always trigger that nuke device on their wrists with their last breaths, so if they get taken down, you have to make sure their really dead, not just dying.

Predators hunt things far more dangerous than humans out in the vast galaxy. And they do so willingly and with relish.

The thing that bugged me the most about Predator, was how in the beginning it showed the soldiers as cold, fluid, methodical in their execution, professional killers. Take down a normal enemy with little effort. But once the predator showed up they were screaming, sloppy and shooting their guns wildly into the air. Where was their training?

Predator is not a good example to draw on because its not a pure horror movie; its also an 80s action film. And its not like the screenwriters were aiming for absolute realism or did extensive research on how a real military Special Forces rescue team (plus one CIA agent) would conduct themselves either.

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY4xhNZrD2w

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0gv4ptBVCw

[SciFlyBoy]

So I was playing ME:A the other day and this happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jttgG0LQOOM&feature=youtu.be
Managed to catch it in time and make this quick video.

[Rune]

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[Dragaros]

Some things of note from the the Necron codex:

The formation of the Great Rift set off activation protocols in a lot of dormant tomb worlds, so Necrons are waking up at an accelerated rate. More than a thousand tomb worlds woke up after Cadia fell by early Imperium estimates. With many more to come.

Necrons are mining Noctilith, aka blackstone, the substance they used to build the Cadian Pylons and the pre-fall Eldar used to make the Blackstone Fortresses/Talismans of Vaul. (Blackstone interacts naturally with the Warp and depending on the polarization it can negate all Warp-related activity in an area or massively amplify it. As such its of great value and everyone wants more of it for obvious reasons) The Necrons are building, presumably more Pylons to try to shrink the Great Grift and lessen the daemon incursions.

The Inertialess Drives seem to be completely gone; the codex plays up the importance of the Dolmen Gates, which the Necrons use to gain access to the Webway. Without these, the Necrons are basically without FTL travel. The portal breaches opened by the Gates into the Webway are not stable nor permanent, so the Necrons have to move quickly lest the portal gets cut off as the Webway naturally repairs the breach or Eldar become aware of it and block off that particular Webway passage rendering it useless. (This lends a tiny more weight to the fan theory that the Emperor's idea for the Golden Throne was inspired by a Dolmen Gate used by the Void Dragon to get to Terra and later confiscated by the Emperor after he defeated the Dragon and imprisoned it on Mars.)

There's one crazy Necron Lord who said fuck it and decided to go full space pirate. He's got his own pirate planet.

The Mechanicus is on the Necrons' shit list.

Imotekh the Stormlord is busy fighting Chaos Daemons.

The Necrons see the Tyranids as the biggest threat, especially the factions still loyal to the Silent King, who hope to one day covert themselves from machine bodies back into flesh if possible.

[Azint]

WIP

Thoughts or concerns?

[TTTX]

This. A zombie attack would be dealt with just like any other attack, except for the army coming in at the end of the film they're there at the beginning.

The thing that bugged me the most about Predator, was how in the beginning it showed the soldiers as cold, fluid, methodical in their execution, professional killers. Take down a normal enemy with little effort. But once the predator showed up they were screaming, sloppy and shooting their guns wildly into the air. Where was their training? Would a profession modern solder be able to take down a predator with any equipment he/she could carry?

depends on the situation, soldiers are human they can panic and such like any of us.

The Predator is an unknown that can be everywhere, kill you at anytime, that would be pretty scary for pretty much everyone, even hardcore soldiers.

[TTTX]

In other news, my Uncle's dog had to go to the vet, because he had been sick for a few days now and it turned out the dog had cancer and had to be put down.

That's hit me hard as I have known the dog for almost 12 years and he could always put a smile on my face, needless to say I'm rather sad about the whole thing.

[Raga]

So how many of you were gamers when you were younger or real young? I'm guessing........most of you?

I played a couple from time to time, mostly Star Fox and NES games, but I didn't play my first Xbox game until I was 30. And now that I finally get to get into gaming, most people my age are done with it. On one side, I don't get the little references for popular games of old and on the other I have....one friend I can talk to about games IRL? It's an interesting situation, but I don't plan on slowing down.

Anyway, what is Curio Axia - 3 left?

I was a late comer. I played games since as long as I remember but at friends houses. My sister got a black and white gameboy that I also got to play which was the first in-house system we had, some time in the early 90s. The first system I got which was mine was a PS1 I got for Christmas when I was 12. I also got my first for real computer game that year as well which was Baldur's Gate.

[Rune]

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[Vol]

WIP

Thoughts or concerns?

Your Far Cry 5 character, I presume?

Color-wise, I like the tone of her skin, softer than I would expect with the lifestyle she presents. Clothes are all hallmarks of the culture, plaid is always good. Heterochromia?

The vertical of her face seems off, her philtrum through chin is not aligned with the nose. Is she quirking her jaw?

Tattoo (tatau) looks good, plaid pattern looks good. Her left hand lacks rigidity, the right appears bigger than the left.

Clothes look fine, especially on the pelvis and ankles, though something about her forward leg seems off. Hm. With the back foot turned past parallel with her hips, that means she's planted it and twisted in place...ah, it's the lack of structure from the tibia, but since the jeans are baggy, you wouldn't see it.

Tough lady, but pretty, well done.

In other news, my Uncle's dog had to go to the vet, because he had been sick for a few days now and it turned out the dog had cancer and had to be put down.

That's hit me hard as I have known the dog for almost 12 years and he could always put a smile on my face, needless to say I'm rather sad about the whole thing.

My condolences. In return for the joy they bring us, it's also our duty to relieve the suffering when their time is up. 12 years for a dog is a long, wonderful life. And once the pain fades, maybe a new dog to cherish and smile with might come along.

[TTTX]

My condolences. In return for the joy they bring us, it's also our duty to relieve the suffering when their time is up. 12 years for a dog is a long, wonderful life. And once the pain fades, maybe a new dog to cherish and smile with might come along.

Well my uncle wants another dog at some point, what kind he'll get remains to be seen.

I just hope it's a good one.

Edited: also thanks.

[Rune]

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[SciFlyBoy]

In other news, my Uncle's dog had to go to the vet, because he had been sick for a few days now and it turned out the dog had cancer and had to be put down.

That's hit me hard as I have known the dog for almost 12 years and he could always put a smile on my face, needless to say I'm rather sad about the whole thing.

That sucks. I'm sorry it had to be that way. Nothing beats a good dog.

[Vol]

That's some pretty girls you got there, Rune. Purty.

The last 1/2 Genie Hero DLC is out. Costume mode, 3 different costumes (Ninja, bikini, MIghty Switch Force), all with their own campaigns. So far, I'm doing bikini, but man the difficulty curve spikes hard. Basically need to do a perfect speedrun while lacking most of your tools.

[Dragaros]

In other news, my Uncle's dog had to go to the vet, because he had been sick for a few days now and it turned out the dog had cancer and had to be put down.

That's hit me hard as I have known the dog for almost 12 years and he could always put a smile on my face, needless to say I'm rather sad about the whole thing.

Sorry, man. I know how that feels.

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uyIp5C1N5M

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbd2mRM-4u8

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7EAoY6SZWU

[Dragaros]

[Dragaros]

[Dragaros]

[SciFlyBoy]

Finally, here's my music demo. It's a culmination of six months of hard work. This is just a small sampling of some of the genres I covered and I will make different versions in the future. Please enjoy.
https://youtu.be/8C_2v4Q8RWE

[Rune]

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[NCLanceman]

This is without a doubt the most true and correct Far Cry 5 review.

[NCLanceman]

Would a profession modern solder be able to take down a predator with any equipment he/she could carry?

If it bleeds, we can kill it.


Thankfully, Ghost Recon: Wildlands answers this very question. The answer is that two of them could totally take down the Predator if they kept their heads on a swivel and one of them had a .50 Caliber sniper rifle to tag him whenever he was spotted because the chuckling fuck is damn near bullet proof.

If we'd been able to call in mortar support the whole time, the Predator would've gone out way sooner.

[TTTX]

That sucks. I'm sorry it had to be that way. Nothing beats a good dog.

nothing beats a good pet, that is true.

Sorry, man. I know how that feels.

thanks man.

[SciFlyBoy]

Love the real life soldier versus fictional soldier scenario.

[TTTX]

Finally, here's my music demo. It's a culmination of six months of hard work. This is just a small sampling of some of the genres I covered and I will make different versions in the future. Please enjoy.

Well I liked all the music.

But I do have a few issue with the fortage you used, it's basically just the Dark Knight and Night at the museum segments.

The action music for the Dark Knight felt like it belong a very different scene, more like a pure car chase without guns in it or some sort scene involving a fuse burning or a countdown with a bomb with some kind action and the feeling does the hero get away from the threat or neutralize it in time (which is kind of the fortage is in the movie, but I don't know it seems to loud,"bright" and such compared to the scenes, at least to me).

As for the comedy music for Night at the museum it feels off I don't know why, I got a Fantasia, the Pastoral Symphony segment vibe, out of it the music when I heard it. It felt something generally something more lighthearted should be going on then what was going on screen, more fun and whimsical then the main character go "stop being dicks, dumbasses".

At least that's how I feel and I tried my best to explain why I felt the way the music spoke to me and why it felt wrong with fortage being played at the same time.

Hope it helps.

[SciFlyBoy]

Well I liked all the music...

Thanks. I have the full scenes on my youtube if you want to look at them within the context of the scene. Action's not much different, but comedy's a bit longer.

[TTTX]

Thanks. I have the full scenes on my youtube if you want to look at them within the context of the scene. Action's not much different, but comedy's a bit longer.

maybe, I don't listen to that much to music in general, but I know it's important to you and you want improve yourself, so I want to do my small part and help you get better (or some pointers) at least the best I can.

Mind you I'm not hard to please when it comes to music so I might not be the best critic.

[SciFlyBoy]

maybe, I don't listen to that much to music in general, but I know it's important to you and you want improve yourself, so I want to do my small part and help you get better (or some pointers) at least the best I can.

Mind you I'm not hard to please when it comes to music so I might not be the best critic.

That's fine. I'm happy you're listening.