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To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby TheodoricFriede » September 13th, 2016, 9:43 pm

I have, for quite some time, wanted to make a compilation of various recipes the group has stumbled upon.

Cooking is fun, and hopefully sharing recipes will enlighten and encourage anyone in our group with an interest in food.

If possible, pictures of your finish product are encouraged! Ill add some later for mine.

Compiled recipes:
German Honey Cookies:
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Batter for Chicken, Fish, Vegetables, Etc.
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Cajun Chili
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Chipotle Mayo
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Lasagna

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Bangers and Mash gravy
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Garbage Plate
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Pumpkin Spice Cookies.
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Candied Dinner Carrots

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Passatelli

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Sore Throat Remedy Herbal Tea

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby Vol » September 13th, 2016, 10:52 pm

Ah, sweets. It's amazing I didn't get fat or diabetes given my diet up until...like a year or two ago.

So while that sounds tasty, especially because I like honey, how about something healthier. Like fried food!

Gimme that batter recipe you were talking about. I'm getting better with practice, but still not finding that sweet spot.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » September 13th, 2016, 11:45 pm

The batter recipe is hard, because its really a "to taste" kind of thing. I dont really measure, i just do what looks right, and what i feel will properly distribute within the four.

But here are some tips.
Ingredients
Base Batter: (Chicken fried steak, Fried shrimp, most vegetables)
Flour
Parsley
Salt
Black Pepper
Red Pepper
Paprika
Garlic Powder
Onion Powder

If Chicken Batter Add:
Sage
Rosemary
Thyme
Ginger

If Fish, Base Batter Plus: (also works with "southern vegetables" like Okra)
Corn Meal = 1/2 Total Flour Added

Instructions
1.) Take your mix, put all that in a Bag (ideal) or mixing bowl, mix well.
2.) Fill a bowl with Milk.
3.) Dip what you plan on frying in milk.
4.) Put Milked foodstuff in batter mix, making sure everything is evenly coated.
5.) Put battered foodstuff back in milk to re-wet.
6.) Put Milked foodstuff in batter mix, making sure everything is evenly coated.
7.) Repeat as desired. (Ideally 3 or 4 times)
8.) Fry.

Notes.
How long you fry, obviously, depends on the food. I usually do 4 minutes on a side in olive oil heated on a medium temperature. (Other oils are fine, but olive oil, while more expensive, wont burn as easily, and wont give a greasy flavor. Give it a try)

Fry with a cast iron skillet if you can. They're fantastic. Just make sure you "Cure" them properly, or they will make everything stick, and youll burn the hell out of everything. Ive never tried this with a deep fryer. Let me know how it is if you try.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby DarkStorm » September 13th, 2016, 11:55 pm

What I like to do with chicken batter is sometimes add cornmeal in with bread crumbs for a nice crunch.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby Alienmorph » September 14th, 2016, 8:14 am

Oooh, I very much approve of this thread!

Me personally I am a rather "meh" cook (I can manage to conjure up some basic stuff in order to survive and that's about it lol) but being italian and all that I know quite a few tasty meals you 'mmuricans could also like, so I'll hunt down and translate some recipes = )

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby Spartanburger » September 15th, 2016, 1:57 am

I've got a nice recipe for "Cajun" Chili that my dad gave me before college.

Feeds: 5-7
Spiciness: 4/10 in my books, adjustable
Gas factor: Medium. Potentially apocalyptic.
Health: Use for special occasions. I have it once a semester at most.
Great for leftovers.
Use a cast iron dutch oven for best results, though a large pot will also work.

Ingredients
  • 2 cans Black Beans
  • 2 cans Red Kidney Beans
  • 1 bottle (22oz) of beer. The darker, the better.
  • 1 can Diced Tomatoes
  • 1 pound Ground Beef
  • 1 Onion, medium sized
  • 1 Green Bell Pepper
  • 4 Cloves Garlic
  • Vegetable Oil
  • Cayenne Pepper
  • Chili Powder
  • Cumin
  • Salt
  • Pepper
  • (optional) Plain Thick Slice Bacon (no more than 16oz). Make sure it's not any of the flavored stuff
  • (optional) Whatever your favorite meat rub or spice is. I like McCormick's Smokehouse Maple or Dinosaur BBQ's Cajun Foreplay


What you do

So, I like to prepare a lot of stuff before I start, so the actual order you make this in could be changed to be a bit more time-friendly.

    1. Preparing the ingredients
Medium dice the onion and large dice the bell pepper. Chop or crush all four cloves of garlic. Place your ground beef into a bowl and add one shake of cayenne pepper, one tablespoon of chili powder, and one shake of your favorite meat rub/spice (optional). Give your meat a good 'ol rub Mix thoroughly.

Pour the black and kidney beans into a strainer to strain out the liquid "bean juice" that was in the can. Rinse under cool water to clean off any remaining bean juice. You may have to do this step one can at a time due to the amount of beans you will be handling. This helps significantly reduce the gas effect of the meal.

(Optional) Heat the dutch oven/pot on the stove on medium. While the pot is heating up, cut the uncooked bacon into small, bite-sized bits with scissors or a knife. When the pot is hot, add the bacon and cook thoroughly. If you're not a fan of heart attacks, discard the bacon grease, but leave the bacon and any fond in the pot.

    2. Preliminary cooking
Heat pot on medium until hot. Add two tablespoons of vegetable oil. If you are cooking with bacon, use your best judgement for the amount of oil to add. The bottom of the pot should be covered in a semi-thin layer of oil, and remaining grease may mean that oil is not necessary.

Add the onions and the garlic to the pot. Cook, stirring frequently, until fragrant.

Add the ground beef to the pot and cook, stirring frequently to prevent the beef from cooking as a single blob, until cooked through.

    3. The "fuck it" moment where you throw literally everything in
Once the meat is cooked through, add the following to the pot:
  • Diced Bell Pepper
  • Strained Beans. All of them.
  • Diced Tomatoes, including all liquid from the can
  • 2 tablespoons Chili Powder
  • 3 shakes Cayenne Pepper
  • 1 tablespoon Cumin
  • 1/2 teaspoon Salt, harvested from the tears of angry post-nerf Genji mains.
  • 20 turns of pepper
  • (optional) 4 shakes of your favorite Meat Rub or spice. Add more if you wish, but be warned that too much can ruin it.

Stir thoroughly, and add the beer until the mixture is just barely covered. If you don't have enough beer, use water for the rest. If you have leftover beer, drink it.

    4. Cook that shit down
Reduce heat to a medium-low simmer, cover, and cook for 1-2 hours, stirring every 15 minutes. The more you cook, the thicker it gets. I usually go for the full two hours.


Serve with the bread things and eat.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby TheodoricFriede » September 15th, 2016, 9:37 am

I got to try that chili one.

I've never actually made that before.

Edit: Wait..."3 shakes of cayenne pepper?" Are you making it for babies? What good is chili that doesn't bring you pain?

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Postby Mazder » September 15th, 2016, 12:53 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:Edit: Wait..."3 shakes of cayenne pepper?" Are you making it for babies? What good is chili that doesn't bring you pain?

Flavour ability to eat it and not wasting time with that "getting tolerant of the level of heat" bullshit?

There has not been a single "hot" thing I have liked because it was burning my mouth and other areas. It doesn't enhance any flavour all it does is hurt, what is the point of that?!

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Postby SciFlyBoy » September 15th, 2016, 1:19 pm

Mazder wrote:
TheodoricFriede wrote:Edit: Wait..."3 shakes of cayenne pepper?" Are you making it for babies? What good is chili that doesn't bring you pain?

Flavour ability to eat it and not wasting time with that "getting tolerant of the level of heat" bullshit?

There has not been a single "hot" thing I have liked because it was burning my mouth and other areas. It doesn't enhance any flavour all it does is hurt, what is the point of that?!

You reminded me of a birthday I had once at Joe's Crab Shack. I ordered the steamed crab bucket, but the spice they used was so intense I was crying all throughout the meal. I couldn't enjoy the food. It made it a terrible experience and I actually enjoy the flavor of spices.

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Postby SciFlyBoy » September 15th, 2016, 1:34 pm

Chipotle Mayo:

1 small can of chipotle peppers in Adobo sauce
Mayonnaise
Salt
Blender
Small mesh sieve

Open can and on a non wooden surface (Unless you want to spend a week washing the stain out) slice open each pepper and remove seeds and rib material. Put pepper into blender and seeds and rib material into mesh sieve. Repeat for all peppers. Add sauce from can and any on cutting board into blender and put sieve with seeds and rib material over blender so sauce can drip in. Use a spoon to move the sees about to get all the sauce (The stuff is good) keep the seeds on the side.

Add about a cup of mayo to start and blend until smooth. Add some salt and taste and if too spicy add mayo until it's just what you desire. If you add too much mayo add some seeds and material until it's what you desire. Then put it in a squirt bottle (Ketchup bottle) and put on anything you desire. Eggs, sandwich, pizza, you name it. (Note: do not touch your eyes at all during the making of this)

Then you can make my favorite burger:
Bun
chipotle mayo
Burger
Cheddar Cheese
Fried onions (or onion rings)
Fried Egg
More chipotle mayo
Bun

Yum

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Postby Spartanburger » September 15th, 2016, 1:56 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:Edit: Wait..."3 shakes of cayenne pepper?" Are you making it for babies? What good is chili that doesn't bring you pain?


I think it depends on the shaker you have. The spice containers I have are rather excessive with how much comes out per shake, hence three. But as I said at the top, the hotness is adjustable.

My mother once made this and got the Chili and Cayenne amounts mixed up. That was a fun night.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » September 15th, 2016, 2:27 pm

Mazder wrote:Flavour ability to eat it and not wasting time with that "getting tolerant of the level of heat" bullshit?

There has not been a single "hot" thing I have liked because it was burning my mouth and other areas. It doesn't enhance any flavour all it does is hurt, what is the point of that?!


SciFlyBoy wrote:You reminded me of a birthday I had once at Joe's Crab Shack. I ordered the steamed crab bucket, but the spice they used was so intense I was crying all throughout the meal. I couldn't enjoy the food. It made it a terrible experience and I actually enjoy the flavor of spices.


...I put 15 - 20 shakes of cayenne pepper in soup that is only supposed to be kind of mild....

Ill put Japanese red pepper and ginger spice in green tea to give it a bit of extra kick.


I could snort 3 shakes of cayenne pepper and feel nothing.

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Postby SciFlyBoy » September 15th, 2016, 3:39 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:
I could snort 3 shakes of cayenne pepper and feel nothing.

Well how many scoville units does it take to trigger heat for you? Cayenne is 30,000.

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Postby Mazder » September 15th, 2016, 4:01 pm

SciFlyBoy wrote:You reminded me of a birthday I had once at Joe's Crab Shack. I ordered the steamed crab bucket, but the spice they used was so intense I was crying all throughout the meal. I couldn't enjoy the food. It made it a terrible experience and I actually enjoy the flavor of spices.

Flavour is fine, but when you go so hot you have to have something there to cut it down you're just making it difficult for yourself to eat.

TheodoricFriede wrote:
...I put 15 - 20 shakes of cayenne pepper in soup that is only supposed to be kind of mild....

Ill put Japanese red pepper and ginger spice in green tea to give it a bit of extra kick.


I could snort 3 shakes of cayenne pepper and feel nothing.

The fuck you putting shit in soothing green tea for?!
It's not meant to have any sort of kick it's supposed to be soothing!

And why do you want to feel pain when you eat something anyway?
Sounds utterly pointless to me.

SciFlyBoy wrote:Well how many scoville units does it take to trigger heat for you? Cayenne is 30,000.

Jalapeño level is my limit, anything at that level or higher and I am usually not going to bother because it's not worth it.

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Postby SciFlyBoy » September 15th, 2016, 4:17 pm

Mazder wrote:Jalapeño level is my limit, anything at that level or higher and I am usually not going to bother because it's not worth it.

Chipotle is my limit right now. First time in my life I've ever liked anything spicy and I'm really enjoying that spice and flavor right now.

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Postby Mazder » September 15th, 2016, 4:25 pm

SciFlyBoy wrote:
Mazder wrote:Jalapeño level is my limit, anything at that level or higher and I am usually not going to bother because it's not worth it.

Chipotle is my limit right now. First time in my life I've ever liked anything spicy and I'm really enjoying that spice and flavor right now.

Yeah, I am the same I prioritize flavour.
If I am in too much pain to taste the food then it's not worth the effort because I am not tasting it.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby TheodoricFriede » September 15th, 2016, 6:09 pm

SciFlyBoy wrote:
TheodoricFriede wrote:
I could snort 3 shakes of cayenne pepper and feel nothing.

Well how many scoville units does it take to trigger heat for you? Cayenne is 30,000.

Uh well... I was growing those red Savannah habaneros for a while, and seasoning my food with those with relative ease.

Those are apparently 250,000 577,000 scoville units. I havent had much experience with ghost peppers, (1,041,427 apparently) but i did chew a ghost pepper gumball before. That got quite hot, but in different circumstances, such as it being in an actual food, and not just a novelty candy, i could probably eat that food and still enjoy myself, despite the heat.

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Postby SciFlyBoy » September 15th, 2016, 7:16 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:Uh well... I was growing those red Savannah habaneros for a while...

You should have started with that, because that explains a lot to me.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby TheodoricFriede » September 15th, 2016, 7:41 pm

SciFlyBoy wrote:
TheodoricFriede wrote:Uh well... I was growing those red Savannah habaneros for a while...

You should have started with that, because that explains a lot to me.

It helps to have been partially raised by a Morroccan Grandmother who liked to add spice to her food.
She'd make it spicy, I'd like it. She'd add more, I'd like it. She'd add more, I'd like it. She'd add what she would put in her own food, I'd liked it.

I asked for more spice, and she would add it.

She's is a woman that understands the beauty of spicy foods. Also heavy metal.

A heavy metal, spicy food grandma. Wearing a lot of jewelry.

A sparkling, spicy food, heavy metal grandma.

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Postby SciFlyBoy » September 15th, 2016, 9:39 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:
A sparkling, spicy food, heavy metal grandma.

My grandma would make apple butter. Sadly that's all that really comes to mind when I think of her cooking.

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Postby Vol » September 15th, 2016, 10:17 pm

Now this is what I'm talking about. Crispy batter with a bunch of spices, chili, and an excuse to buy some Guinness.

I'd try my hand at Sci's mayo too, but vinegar is in every one I've ever seen.

As for spice, I have a box of Korean spicy ramen that I eat now and again, and it's just the right level of heat. Get a good endorphin rush from the start, can still taste it, and by the end, you're just shy of being too spiced up. Perfect. That's what you shoot for, Mazzy, a rush of feel-good chemicals in the brain and some heat just shy of being unpleasant.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » September 15th, 2016, 10:47 pm

Did you get to try the batter?

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Postby Mazder » September 16th, 2016, 3:30 am

Vol wrote:That's what you shoot for, Mazzy, a rush of feel-good chemicals in the brain and some heat just shy of being unpleasant.

You know what gives me feel good?
Being able to taste my food and swallow it with no pains.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby Alienmorph » September 17th, 2016, 6:40 am

Okay, time to bring in the big guns. Let's start with a classic...

Lasagne


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Probably one of the most famous edible things that came out of my country, and for good reasons, there are a tons of variations of it you can come up with, but I'll focus on the classic one, the Lasagna Bolognese.

A good lasagna is made by primarily 3 parts: the pasta, the ragu and the bechamel, so let's see first how to make each of those properly, and then how to combine them:

Bechamel:
This white sauce is probably the easiest thing to make out of the 3, it's made mostly of a mixture of milk and white flour, these are the quantities to make 1/2liter of it, though you'll likely need at least a liter of it to make a big-sized lasagna:

- 1/2 liter of milk (absolutely do NOT use skimmed milk)
- 50g of white flour
- 50g of butter
- nutmeg or nutmeg powder
- salt and pepper

First of all, melt the butter in a metal pan or casserole, add the flour and mix them 'till you get an homogenous mix (should take a few minutes);
Add the milk and keep mixing: the milk must have been warmed up on its own already, but ONLY warmed-up, don't make it boil!
Now it's only a matter of mixing and mixing until the bechamel becomes a dense creamy compound... if it becomes TOO dense add abit more of milk, if it doesn't seem to condense enough, add abit more of flour. You need to keep mixing until you think it's ready, to avoid the forming of lumps, you want a nice, homogenous white cream. Once you obtain that, add a bit of salt, pepper and nutmeg powder to enhance its taste, quantities of these depends by your taste. Shouldn't take you more than 5-10 minutes to make the bechamel.

Ragu:

The ragu is a very popular sauce in the upper half of my country: to give you 'mmuricans an idea, is very much like a non-spicy version of the chili, and there's a ton of variations of it, as it can be made with any type of meat you want, and with or without the use of tomato sauce or the whine. Here's the classic version tho, quantities for 6 people:

- 300g of minced meat (either minced beef, stuffing for sausage or a mix of the two)
- 50g of carrot
- 50g of leak
- 50g of onion
- 300g of tomato sauce
- olive oil or red whine (about half a glass of it)
- salt and pepper

First of all, take the carrot, leak and onion, clean them up properly with water and chop them to very very tiny pieces, put them in a metal or ceramic pot or pan, with the oil or whine and let them cook for abit, keeping sure they don't burn up. Then add the meat and the tomato sauce, and mix everything up. Keep the mix on cooker, making sure the flames are not super-high, and mix it every one or two minutes to make sure it doesn't attach to the borders of the pot and burn. Usually it takes one or two hours to get a well-balanced ragu, but you can keep on the fire a bit less if you want it to be more fluid, or abit more to have it dried up some more. The ragu on its own goes great with any type of pasta, so if the preparation of the lasagna is too complex, just take the ragu recipe and use it on its own. You can (some versions straight up demands you do) add some bacon bits to the mix to give it an extra bit of taste and fat.

Pasta:

You can find pre-made sheets of pasta in the supermarkets you can use, if you want (at least here, but you can probably do in the US too, if you find a well-stocked supermarket), but here's the recipe to make your own! You'll need:

- White flour (properly sifted)
- eggs
- olive oil
- water

First of all, drop a big quantity of flour on a large wooden chopping board, or a similar flat surface. Lay it down making a small mountain-like shape, then with your fist dig an whole (or a crater ,if you will xD) in the middle of it; crack open one or two eggs and drop their content in the crater, then comes the messy part: with your bare hands start mixing and compressing the flour and the eggs, until you get a mass of a compact yet elastic consistency. If it's too thick, add one extra egg, or abit of oil, if it's too fluid add flour. Once you've got a nice big blob of dough take a rolling pin and flatten it on the board: to make sure the pasta doesn't stick to the board constantly sprinkle a bit of dry flour on it through the whole preparation. Flatten the dough until you obtain a flat layer tall 2 or 3 millimeters, then cut it in rectangular or square shapes, sprinkle abit more of flour on them and put them aside on trays or dishes for a couple hours to dry up. Ideally, you should make the pasta sheets first, and while they rest you can make the two sauces. You can also make the pasta green if you want, by adding finely chopped spinaches or similar erbs to the mixture, but they'll make the pasta abit hard to manage, as the vegetable fibers makes it thicker. Taste will be virtually identical, so if you don't think it's worth the trouble, don't do it.


And now time to combine everything!


Take a big rectangular baking tin, rub some butter all over it to make sure nothing stays attached to the tin, then start assemble your lasagna: put abit of ragu on the base, then add a layer of past then ontop of the pasta layer add more ragu and bechamel in equal quantities, also sprinkling them with grated cheese, possibly parmesan or a similar one. Then put ontop another layer of pasta and so forth: repeat until you have 8-10 layers of pasta and sauce one ontop of the other, making sure the last layer ontop is of sauce: to that one add more cheese, so that during cooking it'll form a nice crispy crust. Then put your lasagna in the oven, at a temperature of 180 degrees Celsius for 30-45 minutes (depending by the size of the lasagna). Once ready take it out, let it rest in the air for 5-10 minutes (otherwise it'll taste more like lava and less like lasagna xD) cut it into squares or rectangles and serve it.

In the end, making the lasagna itself is a rather simple process, you just slap the ingredients one over the other layer after layer and put it in the oven. The tricky part are the 3 main component: however you should be able to find them pre-made in the supermarkets and get a decent lasagna anyway. Although off course making everything yourself is much more satysfing, and if you do everything right, will taste alot better too!

Next time, something more casual-friendly, I promise xD
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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby TheodoricFriede » September 17th, 2016, 7:44 am

Huh, you ever make this yourself Alien?

I really might give this one a try (Once my fucking oven is functional again. Do you have any idea how infuriating it is to have a broken oven when you LIKE cooking?)

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby Alienmorph » September 17th, 2016, 9:10 am

Not myself, but my mother makes them on regular basis, this is more or less how she does them, except most of the time she uses bought pasta to save some time.

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Postby SciFlyBoy » September 17th, 2016, 11:49 am

Alienmorph wrote: except most of the time she uses bought pasta to save some time.

We will never tell a soul.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby Vol » September 17th, 2016, 11:19 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:Did you get to try the batter?

Not yet, haven't had a chance to cook this week. Might try it tomorrow, depending on if I get to be alone for the day.

Also that lasagna sounds fantastic, Alien. This topic's actually turning into a pretty good repository for dishes I'm going to try.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby TheodoricFriede » September 18th, 2016, 3:15 am

Vol wrote:Not yet, haven't had a chance to cook this week. Might try it tomorrow, depending on if I get to be alone for the day.

I hope you actually like it.

I dont have many things I can say this with, but when its properly done, I genuinely believe i make a better batter than just about any other place I know.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby SciFlyBoy » September 20th, 2016, 4:38 pm

I'll make bangers and mash tonight.

Already have the bangers and the mash (Just boiled potatoes and added milk, cheese and garlic) so I'll just make the onion gravy. Maz, let me know if I'm doing it wrong.

Butter in the pan, maybe a tablespoon for 2.
I'll add a small or medium onion, sliced and a bay leaf
cook until soft and a little color
add some flour, 1 or 2 tbs
cook til more color
add maybe 1/2 cup of beef stock and 1/2 cup wine
stir until it has thickened
take out bay leaf
pour over cooked bangers sausage and mashed potatoes

That's all I know. Good stuff.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » September 20th, 2016, 5:34 pm

Generally if you want to get a nice dark gravy, i think you need to add a darkening agent. I know Kitchen Bouquet is one, but i've never actually used it.

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Postby SciFlyBoy » September 20th, 2016, 5:41 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:Generally if you want to get a nice dark gravy, i think you need to add a darkening agent. I know Kitchen Bouquet is one, but i've never actually used it.

I think the color comes from the roux. If I cook it longer I get a darker color, but the beef stock and red wine will give it a nice color too.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » September 24th, 2016, 5:45 am

It seems to me a good mix for gravy base is 1/4th a stick of butter, 1/4th a cup of flour, and 1 1/2 cups whatever liquid you are going to add.

Thats been working really well for me lately.

If you are making pot roast of some sort, when its done cooking, take your liquids from that, and add it to the roux to make your gravy. Than put that gravy on your pot roast.

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Postby Mazder » September 24th, 2016, 6:13 am

TheodoricFriede wrote:It seems to me a good mix for gravy base is 1/4th a stick of butter, 1/4th a cup of flour, and 1 1/2 cups whatever liquid you are going to add.

Thats been working really well for me lately.

If you are making pot roast of some sort, when its done cooking, take your liquids from that, and add it to the roux to make your gravy. Than put that gravy on your pot roast.

This, all of this.

Meat liquids are a MUST for any roast.
Depending on the meat a bit of wine in the gravy is also good.
I can't remember what it is called but it's basically cooking off the alcohol.
For example if you have a pork joint, take your juices, add a little red wine (just a splash, not too much) and cook off the alcohol so you have all the flavour in and then add your flour, butter, etc.
Apparently it's even better if you have some onions and herbs in the gravy too, just remember to sieve it. :D

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Postby SciFlyBoy » September 24th, 2016, 9:04 pm

Mazder wrote: :D

I've been wanting to make some meat pie. Is there a good one to start with? Here in the US our meat pie is chicken pot pie.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » September 24th, 2016, 9:06 pm

SciFlyBoy wrote:
Mazder wrote: :D

I've been wanting to make some meat pie. Is there a good one to start with? Here in the US our meat pie is chicken pot pie.

Make a beef pot pie. Same concept, different insides.

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Postby Mazder » September 25th, 2016, 7:37 am

TheodoricFriede wrote:
SciFlyBoy wrote:
Mazder wrote: :D

I've been wanting to make some meat pie. Is there a good one to start with? Here in the US our meat pie is chicken pot pie.

Make a beef pot pie. Same concept, different insides.

This.
A good steak pie is really easy and not terribly fussy.

The hardest part is making sure you have enough moisture in the pie so the meat isn't dry as all fuck, but the bottom of the pastry isn't a soggy, limp-dicked mess.

EDIT: Here are a couple of vids from some chef's to show the basic overview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6BHiiuyXCs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbZXledkO68

Obviously Marco Pierre White's pie is only a pie topping and not a true fully formed pie.
But once you have the pastry and filling ration down you can also make Cornish Pasties!

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Postby TheodoricFriede » September 25th, 2016, 3:39 pm

Good way to keep your pie from getting soggy is to bake the crust a bit first whit some egg brushed on it. Locks in the moisture.

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Postby Mazder » September 25th, 2016, 4:23 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:Good way to keep your pie from getting soggy is to bake the crust a bit first whit some egg brushed on it. Locks in the moisture.

Aye, that works.

Just make sure to reduce the broth so it's more like a light-gravy consistency before baking, that also works.

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Postby Vol » September 25th, 2016, 6:04 pm

Gave your batter recipe a try, Theo. Didn't have everything, but enough. Work out pretty well, I'd say. Batter was the best part, though the cheap porkchops could have used about 30 more seconds of time on the heat.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » September 25th, 2016, 6:19 pm

Because taste is so subjective, it takes a while to get the batter to where you might like it.

Do you fry on a skillet or with a deep fryer?

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Postby Vol » September 25th, 2016, 9:54 pm

Yep. I wanted to kick up the spice, but since my grandmother had to be able to eat it, and she can hardly handle pepperoni, I scaled back.

Skillet for the chops, but I have a nice deep fryer I normally use. Figured a shallow panful of oil would handle pork better.

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Postby Spartanburger » September 27th, 2016, 10:55 pm

Okay, so I got another suggestion, but it's not something that is easily made at home. It's more of a fast food thing.

See, where I live, there's this local food.

We here call it a Garbage Plate.

Basically, you need only a few main components:

  • A Meaty substance (usually cheeseburger, hamburger, Italian sausages, steak, chicken, fried fish, eggs, grilled cheese sandwhich, white or red hots)
  • Fries or home fries
  • Beans or mac salad
  • Bread, usually a bun
  • then drizzled with spicy meat sauce, shaved onion, and mustard


This is how you eat it:

1.Take a moment to consider the horrible thing you are about to do to your body.
2. Take a knife, and chop everything up.
3. Mix it all together.
4. Eat, bite by bite.
5. Wash yourself. Hot shower and bleach.
6. Lay down and repent for your sins.

My campus has two different versions on campus, and it's great. And terrible. There's a reason why they call it the "Freshman Forty" here.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby TheodoricFriede » September 27th, 2016, 11:24 pm

I decided to compile the recipes on the first post. Make them easier to find.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby Alienmorph » September 28th, 2016, 1:04 pm

Good thinking! Will be posting another recipe very soon, of something a bit easier to do this time =P

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby TheodoricFriede » October 1st, 2016, 10:10 pm

I made a mincemeat pie today, or rather two small ones. I didn't have enough mincemeat for one large pie. Never had Mincemeat before.

I ruined the crust, which is exceptionally frustrating because when the cinnamon crust is made right, its absolutely exceptional.

But all in all, not a terrible pie. Good job England.

As for the pie crust, its not my recipe, but I feel its worth sharing. I make a separate post for it later.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby DarkStorm » October 1st, 2016, 10:19 pm

Spartanburger wrote:Okay, so I got another suggestion, but it's not something that is easily made at home. It's more of a fast food thing.

See, where I live, there's this local food.

We here call it a Garbage Plate.

Basically, you need only a few main components:

  • A Meaty substance (usually cheeseburger, hamburger, Italian sausages, steak, chicken, fried fish, eggs, grilled cheese sandwhich, white or red hots)
  • Fries or home fries
  • Beans or mac salad
  • Bread, usually a bun
  • then drizzled with spicy meat sauce, shaved onion, and mustard


This is how you eat it:

1.Take a moment to consider the horrible thing you are about to do to your body.
2. Take a knife, and chop everything up.
3. Mix it all together.
4. Eat, bite by bite.
5. Wash yourself. Hot shower and bleach.
6. Lay down and repent for your sins.

My campus has two different versions on campus, and it's great. And terrible. There's a reason why they call it the "Freshman Forty" here.


New Yorker?

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Postby Spartanburger » October 2nd, 2016, 11:09 am

DarkStorm wrote:New Yorker?

In the Rochester area.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby DarkStorm » October 2nd, 2016, 11:26 am

Spartanburger wrote:
DarkStorm wrote:New Yorker?

In the Rochester area.

heyo ! Havent had a garbage plate in a long ass time because of my changed eating.

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Re: To Serve Man - It's a Cookbook!

Postby Vol » October 6th, 2016, 12:34 pm

So, given I ruined a batch of otherwise perfect meatballs the other day, I have a question for you more experienced guys. What is the ratio of table salt to sea salt?


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