Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

[TheodoricFriede]

I have to say, this trailer actually did more to get me interested in the setting and everything than everything else we've seen.

Still on the fence, but nice to see them put something out that, you know, actually has a modicum of substance to it.

Looks fine. Still will cancel my pre-order if i cant bang the turian.

[Riptide]

...it's either a huge coincidence...

Don't forget that James Vega's original name was James Sanders because they forgot that there was already a major character in the series with the last name Sanders.

It is very likely a coincidence.

It could be.

It'll be a massive oversight if it is. So nothing new, then.

Anyway. Vetra, PB and Cora all seem like they have their appeals. Who knows, maybe I'll get an LI this game I don't hate.

[Riptide]

Also, Alec Ryder is from Nevada.

FUCK YEAH.

[TheodoricFriede]

Ugh. A Nevadan

Never met one I liked.

[TTTX]

Looks fine. Still will cancel my pre-order if i cant bang the turian.

you're first mistake was to preorder to begin with.

Also, Alec Ryder is from Nevada.

FUCK YEAH.

Oh great another american seen it hundreds of times now, boring.

[SciFlyBoy]

Oh great another american seen it hundreds of times now, boring.

Was the US even mentioned in the original games? I know London and Japan and Canada were. We know Australians are still teaching kids to speak.

[TheodoricFriede]

you're first mistake was to preorder to begin with.

Just a precaution.

If I preorder now, and end up still wanting the game, i get free day one delivery. If i dont i cancel and nothing is lost by waiting.

[Deano]

I do wish we'd see more variety in the protoganists voice actors outside of America, which is why I'm hype for Liam, but it'll never happen because people from the US don't relate well.

[TTTX]

Was the US even mentioned in the original games? I know London and Japan and Canada were. We know Australians are still teaching kids to speak.

in the codex yes.

But scifi is generally filled with Americans is various media that at this point, hearing there is one in ME:A is like hearing water is wet.

[TheodoricFriede]

Oh great another american seen it hundreds of times now, boring.

Was the US even mentioned in the original games? I know London and Japan and Canada were. We know Australians are still teaching kids to speak.

Im pretty sure they refer to an North/South American union of some sort.

[SciFlyBoy]

Well it is a Canadian game company, I don't feel like they feel obligated to make the cast all american. The only two people I remember from the series that spoke about where they came from was Kasumi, who more spoke about her heritage and Anderson, who was born on London. Most everyone else was born off world. Shepard could be born in space or on a colony. Where could she have been born when on earth?

[Riptide]

Oh great another american seen it hundreds of times now, boring.

Was the US even mentioned in the original games? I know London and Japan and Canada were. We know Australians are still teaching kids to speak.

You were mentioned in 3. Adelade got nuked from Orbit by the Reapers. Entire city was wiped out.

[TheodoricFriede]

Pretty sure earth born Shepard was born in Canada.

[Riptide]

Oh great another american seen it hundreds of times now, boring.

I don't think I've ever played a Nevadan in a game though.

[TTTX]

Well it is a Canadian game company, I don't feel like they feel obligated to make the cast all american. The only two people I remember from the series that spoke about where they came from was Kasumi, who more spoke about her heritage and Anderson, who was born on London. Most everyone else was born off world. Shepard could be born in space or on a colony. Where could she have been born when on earth?

but they are owned by EA an American company.

[Dragaros]

Hmm.

[SciFlyBoy]

But that's the english game. Do they make them in other languages, or are the captions only in another language?

[Zero Suit Rosalina]

The squadmates mates look pretty cool. Hope they are all interesting as well.

Not too worried about who can bang who but I hope they really make the non-squad members actual good romance options. I'm ME3 I felt like non-squad mates got the short end of the stick on romance.

[TTTX]

But that's the english game. Do they make them in other languages, or are the captions only in another language?

ehhh I think you miss my point, I'm not only talking about ME only but scifi and other geners aswell are filled with Americans so hearing that there is an American in ME:A is like saying water is wet because is like stating something we have heard a hundred times before and BW isn't going to do something new with character there hasn't been done dozens of times.

[Su37]

I just saw the trailer. Originally I was vehemently against the idea of going to a different galaxy, but I have to admit that this trailer has me interested.

But maybe it's just the female turian that's making me feel that way...

[SciFlyBoy]

I'll never know what it's like to be in your shoes, but I am tried of always seeing the white male in a lead. I did see Star Wreck though and see sci-fi through someone else's eye, I think made by a Finnish group. God awful, but I watched the whole thing.

[Someone With Mass]

I know it'll never happen because of marketing, but I'd love to play as an alien of my choosing in a Mass Effect story. That's what a lot of people loved about the multiplayer, after all.

Now we have entire galaxies worth of content, yet we still have to follow the humans, because they're so interesting.

[SciFlyBoy]

Yeah, imagine playing and having the salarian perspective? Your field of vision is different and all the human talk too slow.

[Alienmorph]

Cora Harper.

TIM's name is Jack Harper. That one robot on Mars' name was Eva Core.

Core. Cora.

Harper.

...it's either a huge coincidence...

Or we're going to get to bang TIM's kid.

Don't forget that James Vega's original name was James Sanders because they forgot that there was already a major character in the series with the last name Sanders.

It is very likely a coincidence.[/quote]

Yeah, but one thing is getting confused over the name of characters from spin-off material. Another is the name of one of the main characters of the series.

I don't know... I'm suspicious.

She looks too old to be TIM's spawn, so maybe thei're gonna retcon in that he had a sister that was never mentioned or some shit like that... ? Doesn't have to be related to Cerberus in anyway, but considering how Mac and Casey loved to showe connections to TIM and his organization EVERYWHERE I wouldn't be surprised. I do hope it's a coincidence tho... of all the possible characters I may want to be remembered of, TIM isn't one of them.

[TheodoricFriede]

You only learn the name Jack Harper in spinoff material though.

[Raga]

I do wish we'd see more variety in the protoganists voice actors outside of America, which is why I'm hype for Liam, but it'll never happen because people from the US don't relate well.

Not really that so much as it makes sense for North American companies to make protags who are North American if they want. I don't really expect Dr. Who or Sherlock Holmes to be from Atlanta.

[Alienmorph]

You only learn the name Jack Harper in spinoff material though.

Yeah. In the official comic about the First Contact War and how TIM got his robo-eyes.

Y'know... the one Hack Walters wrote himself.

So I'm gonna say he AT LEAST remembers his own damn works.

[Dragaros]

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[Riptide]

I do like Cora's look at least.

The fact she trained with asari commandos just makes me wish we could of actually gotten one of those instead though.

[Riptide]

ALSO.

It's really fucking interesting that Alec believes the future of mankind lies in working alongside and integrating with AI.

You know. That thing that will always destroy organics. Except when it doesn't.

[Dragaros]

I know it'll never happen because of marketing, but I'd love to play as an alien of my choosing in a Mass Effect story. That's what a lot of people loved about the multiplayer, after all.

Now we have entire galaxies worth of content, yet we still have to follow the humans, because they're so interesting.

BioWare seems to think we can’t emphasize with aliens if they don’t have human faces, and we can’t relate to our main character unless they’re human. Which is utterly absurd for anyone who likes science fiction or plays video games as a hobby.

ALSO.

It's really fucking interesting that Alec believes the future of mankind lies in working alongside and integrating with AI.

You know. That thing that will always destroy organics. Except when it doesn't.

The First Rule of Artificial Intelligence in ME: They cannot be trusted.
The Second Rule of Artificial Intelligence in ME: They can be trusted.
The Third Rule of Artificial Intelligence in ME: In the event the First and Second Rules contradict, flip a coin.

[Dragaros]

"I am Archon. Surrender, or burn."

I'm getting vibes of The Didact from Halo 4. With a little Arishok from Dragon Age 2.

[TheodoricFriede]

I do like Cora's look at least.

The fact she trained with asari commandos just makes me wish we could of actually gotten one of those instead though.

Personally i think her hair is impossibly stupid.

[TheodoricFriede]

So I'm gonna say he AT LEAST remembers his own damn works.

...You want to bet?

[Raga]

ALSO.

It's really fucking interesting that Alec believes the future of mankind lies in working alongside and integrating with AI.

You know. That thing that will always destroy organics. Except when it doesn't.

Seems in sync with their pet synthesis ending. Some high up at Bioware (probably Mac Walters) thinks transhumanism is terribly clever and wants everybody to know it.

[Riptide]

I love transhumanism.

I just fucking despise the Synthesis portrayal of it because its disgusting. The way the quarians and the geth were going would of been great. Then Casey aimed a MAC cannon at the fucking setting and pulled the trigger.

[Raga]

Transhumanism as an interesting theme to explore is great. Transhumanism as a religious sermon and forced conversion at the behest of some Starchild, not so much.

[Riptide]

Tranhumanism as an interesting theme to explore is great. Transhumanism as a religious sermon and forced conversion at the behest of some Starchild, not so much.

At this point I'm sure I've written a book detailing out my feelings on exactly that.

It's an issue they can't just fucking ignore, if they're actively making the protagonist's dad an AI researcher.

[Deano]

I'm getting vibes of The Didact from Halo 4

This is literally what I felt when we got the first look at the race itself.

[TTTX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ComSLNb0jY&index=10&list=WL

[Someone With Mass]

I'm getting vibes of The Didact from Halo 4

This is literally what I felt when we got the first look at the race itself.

Glad I wasn't the only one. I really hope that's not the case, because the Didact was about as boring as The Illusive Man.

BioWare seems to think we can’t emphasize with aliens if they don’t have human faces, and we can’t relate to our main character unless they’re human. Which is utterly absurd for anyone who likes science fiction or plays video games as a hobby.

It's also really ironic considering the diversity agenda they're constantly trying to push.

[Alienmorph]

So I'm gonna say he AT LEAST remembers his own damn works.

...You want to bet?

...

No don't. But in a world that makes more sense, he SHOULD at least able to keep track of his own notes.

ALSO.

It's really fucking interesting that Alec believes the future of mankind lies in working alongside and integrating with AI.

You know. That thing that will always destroy organics. Except when it doesn't.

Oh, ffs... you're not making Ghost in the Shell, the Matrix or any other actually vaguely interesting cyberpunk thing, BW... you're making a Captain Kirk Simulator series, essentially. Stop with the AI ethics bullshit, especially since you don't really have a clue about how to make it well!

[TheodoricFriede]

It's also really ironic considering the diversity agenda they're constantly trying to push.

Not to mention that anyone that can empathize with Cora's unbelievably stupid haircut has to be a goddamned saint.

[Someone With Mass]

It's also really ironic considering the diversity agenda they're constantly trying to push.

Not to mention that anyone that can empathize with Cora's unbelievably stupid haircut has to be a goddamned saint.

Unless people like constantly dressing up as Overwatch characters, I can't see that happening.

[Mazder]

Transhumanism as an interesting theme to explore is great. Transhumanism as a religious sermon and forced conversion at the behest of some Starchild, not so much.

TBH I've not yet seen a conclusion that doesn't make me feel that any Transhumanism isn't like what the Starchild does, be it either instantly, or over time, whittling down the organic resistance.

Not to mention that anyone that can empathize with Cora's unbelievably stupid haircut has to be a goddamned saint.

You mean a short-haired side parting?

Compared to Ashley in ME3 and Miranda this hair is damned good.

[Vol]

What's funny is that while I theoretically like that kind of haircut, when I saw it, I immediately thought of that evil chick from DA:I's faux-French masquerade. They can't help themselves.

[Deano]

I'm not a fan, to me it looks like that "I want to talk to your manager look" which feels at odds with the rest of her character. She seems like she'll be badass so it's a shame.